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Post by Pissy on Mar 5, 2009 11:04:40 GMT 11
Any chance of seeing the second battery??? I would like to see how and what got moved round as I am about to embark on that as my next move. PM sent to you with a pic.
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Post by MuZila on Mar 5, 2009 16:45:07 GMT 11
Thanks Pissy thats showen me exactly what I wanted to know.
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 5, 2009 18:43:15 GMT 11
Here's some pictures of the 2nd battery box, it will fit a decent sized battery, not the wee one we have sitting there in the photo. Just moved the fuel filter. Went down into the guard a little bit. This photo was taken at night so a bit glarey. It won't rub on the tyres it's well up out of the way.
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 5, 2009 18:47:36 GMT 11
The SAS part took two guys a day and a half. Involved alot of grinding. They drove it home (2hrs) like this. Vince said he could only see half the trailer in the rear view mirror with the front way up in the air. So took it easy with his mate tailing him.
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 5, 2009 19:08:47 GMT 11
Currently looking to shorten the fuel tank 100mm to fit the rear winch back there. The only other option was to cut a hole through the floor in the boot. We decided against this due to waterproofing and potential problems with fumes in the cab. I don't think the smaller tank will be an issue and if it is we could always cart spare fuel with us. A custom made tank that tucks up around everything would be cool, but also likely to be expensive.
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Post by MuZila on Mar 6, 2009 4:02:13 GMT 11
Thanks fot those battery pics vinceandrobyn. thats given me even more ideas.
Your truck is coming along great!!
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Post by Pissy on Mar 6, 2009 9:07:04 GMT 11
vinceandrobyn, I don't mean to sound rude and like you already said but thats look like a small AUX battery ? What amp/hour is it and what do you use it for? Here is pic of mine which is slightly different to yours but NO guard cut out, I was able to get a 340x175x250cm 130amp/hours sized battery in there with plenty of over head room , which I am now make a fuse box to fit on top of the battery. Please excuse all my ugly wiring BUT is I do have a body lift which helps allot, I could still have that same battery without a body lift but very close to the bonnet,....too close for my liking,.....good way to short out and start fires? LOL Taking out the EGRs is essential to fit big batteries.
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 6, 2009 10:53:32 GMT 11
Hi Pissy, be as rude as you like ;-) we don't claim to be experts on anything and are on here to learn. Your setup looks good. No idea what size that battery is, it's a wee one off the car sitting there as a bit of a joke I think. We have done a bit of research into batteries. We used to have an optima one, this was reccomended to us for the amount of winching we do, but it only lasted 2yrs and was pretty useless to be honest, never kept up with us, despite using the 120 amp alternator. The one we have lined up is a 1000cca Century battery. Hopefully this will do the trick.
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 6, 2009 11:25:58 GMT 11
I'm getting a bit confused here but I think you have a deep cycle battery designed to give power in smaller quantities over a longer period of time, good for running lights etc. We wanted short bursts of power for winching, most electric winches need around 650cca plus. But when it comes to batteries I think bigger is better.
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Post by geeves on Mar 6, 2009 14:27:13 GMT 11
Batteries are a complicated setup and should probably be a separate thread. Theres 2 important characteristics for batteries. First is capacity measured in amp hours at the 10 hour rate which is the speed of drain ie 100 amp hour battery will supply 10 amps for 10 hours but might not supply 20 amps for 5 hours. The second is CCA which is cold cranking amps This is the current the battery can give for about 5 minuites on a 0C morning. Because of battery design you cant convert one to the other although in general the higher the cca the higher the capacity. There are huge exceptions to this in that starting batteries dont need a high capacity but must supply the amps and storage batteries dont have to supply big current. It rare for a manufacturer to give both figures on every battery
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 6, 2009 19:25:34 GMT 11
The cut down fuel tank. We've probably lost around 20L, so will be cheaper to fill up at the garage ;-) So when the mods are all finished and up and running, does my 'Isuzu Baby' status get upgraded -haha.
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Post by geeves on Mar 6, 2009 20:18:57 GMT 11
You would deserve that status but the system is too hard to make that happen. It only works on posts. Once you make 50 posts you become a junior till 150 posts when you promote to senior then at 300 you become a guru then for the few that make 500 posts you become a deity. only 20 posts to go till your next promotion
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 10, 2009 8:06:29 GMT 11
Haha my truck might get a complex if we keep calling it an Isuzu baby. It's actually looking scarily high, we will be dropping a front spring out for a softer ride and have plenty of room to move with the rear shackles, so it might come down a little bit. We have also been thinking about stud spacers thingies to widen the wheel track and prevent rubbing tyres. We don't really need the body lift but had it on the old mods and the bullbars and everything already adjusted to fit so we won't be taking it out. The rear winch will tuck away nicely, since we have shortened the fuel tank. We need to make a mount and bash plate to protect the winch. All the tricky jobs left now, so posting will probably slow down a bit. Still not sure where to join the front driveshaft, we need to look into it and get it right. My 3yr old is very excited about 'his monster truck' as he calls it.
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Post by holden on Mar 10, 2009 16:27:22 GMT 11
Hey Are you useing the original upper shock mount ?? Looks like it. Nice MU by the way. kane
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 10, 2009 18:50:21 GMT 11
Yes we are using the original shock mounts but trimmed the sides to allow movement of the shock.
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Mar 22, 2009 19:47:58 GMT 11
We've removed two leaves from one spring and one from the other. Now the truck is sitting even at 1095mm at the front. Next job is to drop down a hole in the back shackles to even it up all around. Looks much better and should be alot softer too.
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Post by ono2hi on Mar 29, 2009 19:05:48 GMT 11
iv yet to measure mine interesting about using the old shock mounts, we did shock hoops, i cant wait to see your truck by the looks i have a bit more lift plus i dont have a body lift, i like your batterry set up you must shoe me your twin alt aswell
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Apr 3, 2009 20:10:09 GMT 11
We have just mounted the rear winch.
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Post by mulover on Apr 5, 2009 18:45:40 GMT 11
Looks like a very nice fit in there. Are you planning to have it as a sole rear winch, or are you having guides up to the front??
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Post by vinceandrobyn on Apr 5, 2009 21:33:48 GMT 11
You can probably see the husky on the floor in the first photo, that is our front winch. For now we are using the bullwinch in the rear, but the mounting plate was made large enough for a superwinch or warn when the bullwinch packs in. We had the bullwinch rebuilt 3 times while still under warranty, they are not very strong winches. As it is we have discovered a burnt out solenoid that wasn't replaced when they fixed it last, so we will be looking for a solenoid pack. I'm pretty sure they are sold as Runva now, they look identical anyrate. Solenoid packs should be interchangable.
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