Hiclone

[Jimmu]

I recently saw a MU advertised with Hiclones fitted.

Has anyone here actually used one?

I am interested in peoples experience with them on turbo diesels.

Jimmy.

[andy]

sorry to sound ignorant but whats a hiclone?

[pig75]

www.hicloneqld.com/

[Pissy]

Hi all,
I am the first to say that I am NO mechanic and far from it but I have done a fair bit of reading into Hiclones and more to the point what people think of them. Firstly I’d like to remind everyone that this is my 2 cents worth so don’t get angry as this subject tends to fire up some people.
From reading countless responses to this on Outlimits form I can only conclude or should I say “assume” the following.
There seems to be 3 common types of answers to Hilcones,
1. I have one and it they work.
2. I have/had one and they are a rip off and don’t do swat.
3. Don’t have one and don't see how they would work so I’ll bag it, or I understand the concept but don’t believe that it could work!

Now bare in mind (the way I see it) that Hiclones are suppose to help/organize air into the engine leading to cleaner more efficient combustion of fuel, thus more power and better economy.

I can only assume that placing hiclones on vehicle that has the latest technologies which are well balanced, efficient and tuned, would defeat it’s purpose so what and would be a of no real benefits.

But it appears/sounds to be most beneficial to older less efficient/advanced vehicles where every little bit extra counts! I dare say that our 4WDs might fall into this area?

From the trails that have been done and from what people say the newer the car the less it does and obviously the older the car the higher the potential for it make a real difference.

Also remember that hiclone give a you one month trial in which you can take it back and get your money back, so one would have ask themselves the question, “Why would hiclone give you this chance to take it back”? Cause it may actually work on some cars and not others?

For $160 and $10 fitting for one Hiclone (in Brisbane) and the chance to take it back no questions asked if not happy before 30 days, it’s probably worth finding out.

As soon as get all my other stuff done to the MU first I’ll give 2 of then a try?

I hope this helps

Cheers
Chris

[wayne]

For arguments sake I'll assume the hiclone thingies do make the air swirl in the air inlet but whats the point of fitting one to a turbo? When that lovely swirling air hits the turbo impeller spinning a gazillion RPM it's going to totally have its air flow characteristics changed.

Modern engines are built with the inlets, valves and chambers all enginered for the optimum air flow and there is not much point playing with it.

I'd rather spend the money on diesel, at least I know that works!

W.

[Jimmu]

I think that is a logical analysis Chris, one I tend to agree with.

In theory _If_ it works, and it flows more air _to_ the turbo it would have some performance benefit.

Jimmy.

[Pissy]

To honnest there is only one way to find out and that is to try one or 2, pre and post turbo hiclones. With the 30 money back trial what is there to loose? But in saying that what ever the performance gains (if any,..to be fair?), may not/will not be uniformed to everyones cars. Each and every car will be different and therefore the results varying? Also the remember that in some of the Hiclone feedback responses it took a few tanks until it started to show it's full potential? So the 30 day trial period may be a tad short to full test it properly, best to wait for a few big long trips in a single month?

Cheers

[Harry]

There was a Hiclone in one of my spare engines but since both of my vehicles are intercooled it won't fit in the air intake.However I've had the use of a 2.8 Rodeo 2wd at work for the last couple of weeks.I did a before and after test and there was no noticeable difference.The ute is quicker to 100kph than either of my trucks,but at 100kph it's doing just over 3000rpm.I havn't checked the diff ratio yet but the tyres are 185/14s,so it's fairly low geared.
regards,Harry.

[maletimaru]

all looks like a load of balls to me sorry!!!!

same as the turbonator crap!!!!

they probably tried it on some really buggered cars from the 80's and thought yeah it works!!!!! Maybe it is only for cars that have become fuel hungry and returns them to their factory fuel economy!!!

This type of thing has been out for years conning people left right and centre!!

[Benzev]

They wouldn't work in turboed engines especially with intercoolers they wouldn't work in direct injection diesels for sure ! Turbos and intercoolers change any characteristics the airflow may have and direct injection diesel pistons have swirling chambers in the pistons which alters the incoming airflow actually indirect injection diesels also have precombustion chambers which would already disrupt the incoming airflow! They just can't work! The only improvement you can make to the airflow into your engine is to lengthen its incoming path to allow it to speed up which would increase torque(the reason why snorkels are of extra benefit) Volkswagen has used this principle in their engine design by creating a variable intake for improved performance throughout the revrange! This does work as I know when the variable intake actuator seizes there's a very noticeable drop off in power within that particular revrange! So for best airflow have a snorkel, turbo and intercooler and much better than that it doesn't get! Unless you have a V92T Detroit diesel which is supercharged and turbocharged and that for a 14 liter 2-stroke 32 valve V8! Bit difficult to shoehorn one of those into a MU, Bighorn or Rodeo!!!