Burty
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Post by Burty on May 15, 2006 11:26:00 GMT 11
Hello
Any suggestions on how to remove a "firmly in place" Valvoline oil filter (installed at the local garage), or should I just take it back to the garage and suggest they not put it on so tight so I can do oil/filter changes myself in future?
The vehicle is a 4jg2 MU.
Burty
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mule
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Post by mule on May 15, 2006 12:04:03 GMT 11
I had that trouble too , some mechanics must think it's holding the engine together, anyway , if you are planning on replacing the filter , a big screwdriver through the centre works , I couldn't move mine with the filter wrench , two goes with the screwdriver had it loose enough to undo by hand
Greg
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Post by geeves on May 15, 2006 12:28:52 GMT 11
I would try A filter wrench again first. Ive seen a filter split in half by the screwdriver method. Then thew bottom half was still as tight but was impossible to grip. Motor had to come out to fix that. I know how some apprentices put the filters on I had a Telstar like that After putting a breaker bar on the filter wrench the filter came off but had twist marks in it.
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Burty
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Post by Burty on May 15, 2006 12:48:39 GMT 11
Cheers
We were about to have a go with what appreared to be a filter wrench the other day, but it only looked like it would work in one direction and assuming the "lefty loosie, righty tighty" principle applies to oil filters I wasnt keen on compounding the situation.
I will drop into Supersheap or Repco on the way home and see if I can pick up a suitable bit of equipment.
I must say, the filter is located in a $@#* of a place to work on!
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Post by lndrvamad on May 15, 2006 13:12:56 GMT 11
you can get an oilfilter strap that is just a piece of strap fixed to a socket. Wrap it around the filter and twist it off.
And personally I will be removing the drive shaft next time I change the filter.
???Its posistion is just too stupid for words.
Check trademe too for a good deal on oil filters, got mine at about half price.
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Post by turnturn on May 15, 2006 14:20:48 GMT 11
Does anybody know of any aftermarket remote oil filter kits that fit the 4jb1t?
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Burty
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Post by Burty on May 15, 2006 15:28:02 GMT 11
Tried the oil filter strap option - not enough room to get leverage without dislocating shoulder.
I imagine its position is fine to work on if you are the Japanese ambidextrous contortionist Isuzu diesel propellorhead who designed the whole setup - consequently I figure that I must naturally be doing thing wrong.
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Les
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Post by Les on May 15, 2006 17:24:25 GMT 11
Hi Burty i have found that by removing the front wheel ahd lifting the rubber flap on the inner guard you gan get at the filter with a wrench not much room but u can get a bit of leverage. when fitting a filter go for a good quality one i think theres some old posts on filters the cheaper ones i have found from experience will loosen and start to leak. i find the hardest part is refitting filter its not easy to line it up on threads cheers Les
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Post by geeves on May 16, 2006 7:19:18 GMT 11
The strap ones work but you need to put 3 extensions on to get it to a hight to easily turn. I used to do it this way but its easier with the band type wrench. Theres nothing wrong with the filter location. I can do mine in under 25 minuites but Ive had 9 years practise
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Post by James W on May 16, 2006 7:51:54 GMT 11
'turnturn' the filter you want for a 4JB1 is a Z402, the likes of supercheap and Ripoffco willhave them. As for filter removal my method might be unconventional but is very quick. Take a big tent peg or big screwdriverr and drive it in the top of the filter 1/2" off centre. Then do it again another 1/2" off centre to give two holes 1" appart. Then take a 1" open ended spanner and drive it onto the two holes. Stick the screwdriver in the ring end of the spanner and turn. Off in about 3 minutes.
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Post by turnturn on May 16, 2006 11:45:18 GMT 11
Gidday James, I had actually meant a remote oil filter assembly/adaptor, as in getting away from the filter being attached directly to the engine but shifted to somewhere easier to get to and cleaner to change. Since putting the intercooler on mine it is become a lot harder to get the filter in and out. I end up undoing the vacuum part of the engine warm up valve and moving it out of the way. I'm sure that there must be something out there but haven't got around to looking. Bruce.
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Post by mulover on May 16, 2006 17:44:29 GMT 11
If you enquire at repco, BNT or the likes you should be able to get one or mate something up, also would be worth getting them to cross reference the filter part number to see what other vechiles it will fit on which should widen the search a bit, i have thought about this myself as i now have to remove the intercooler to do a change, and i don't want to do that every time.
As for a filter, i use fram as they have never leaked and they don't seem to tighten up and are easy to remove.
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Post by caffa on May 21, 2006 2:31:30 GMT 11
Tried the oil filter strap option - not enough room to get leverage without dislocating shoulder. I imagine its position is fine to work on if you are the Japanese ambidextrous contortionist Isuzu diesel propellorhead who designed the whole setup - consequently I figure that I must naturally be doing thing wrong. BAHAHAHA .... That tickles my funnybone ;D
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Post by dani4JB1T on May 21, 2006 8:18:51 GMT 11
try a cup filter wrench or a spider/3 legs wrench to remove and install the filter...pretty easy.
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Post by roscoe46956 on May 21, 2006 18:58:03 GMT 11
I use Fram filters on my 4JX1 and I can tighten and remove them by hand each time.
As long as the sealing surface on the filter head and the seal itself are clean and undamaged there should never be a problem with any filter.
Always wet the seal with clean oil prior to fitting.
Cheers Roscoe
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