Holden Frontera and Isuzu MU steering Idler arm.AU

[frn71e]

Hey,

wondering if the idler arm and mount on the MU's are the same as the frontera's


cheers

[muvit madness]

Hi
not to sure but if you need one i have one you can have if you want to play around with it to see if it fits & all?.
cheers
muvit

[frn71e]

muvitmadness said:

Hi
not to sure but if you need one i have one you can have if you want to play around with it to see if it fits & all?.
cheers
muvit

COOL.. can u just do couple meaurments for me then mate.. A) between the top two bolts and B) between front top and bottm bolts and C) over all lenght..

and could u get some pics for me..

If so U WOULD BE A GOD!

I dont wanna fork out another $400 for a second hand one if its going to just brake on me 5 months later again

[geeves]

Is this for a holden frontera sport (made by opel) or the 5 door frontera also known as isuzu wizard and in usa isuzu rodeo?
If its the 5 door then it will be the same if its the earlyer frontera sport dont know but lucks against you.
$400 second hand What are you paying new? Genuine Isuzu one is 450 here and after market less that half that. The after market can be regreased

[frn71e]

geeves said:

Is this for a holden frontera sport (made by opel) or the 5 door frontera also known as isuzu wizard and in usa isuzu rodeo?
If its the 5 door then it will be the same if its the earlyer frontera sport dont know but lucks against you.
$400 second hand What are you paying new? Genuine Isuzu one is 450 here and after market less that half that. The after market can be regreased

Its the Holden Frontera Sports, 3 door.. and genuine are discontinued, and there isnt one listed aftermarket for them, but there is a listing for the Rodeos and Mu but no one knows if they will fit.. so thats what im trying to find out.. And next step is to find out if they are the same as the Holden jackaroo seeing they have my front end in them

[geeves]

If you still have your old spare take it to a local engineer to be rebushed. Get them to fit a grease nipple at the same time.
They will have to dismantle by methods best not described then drill out the center then make the bushes out of good quality brass then press them in so wont be cheap but still less than 400

[frn71e]

geeves said:

If you still have your old spare take it to a local engineer to be rebushed. Get them to fit a grease nipple at the same time.
They will have to dismantle by methods best not described then drill out the center then make the bushes out of good quality brass then press them in so wont be cheap but still less than 400

Local place.. quoted me around 150 for a rodeo one if they fit.. so if they do that is the way imgoing to go... also im lookin in to fitting a dampiner. as the frontera doesnt have one.. and couple ppl ive talked to said it could help with making ti a little harder to brake.. and would help witht he steering too lol

[frn71e]

Have fixed the problem, A 94 TF Rodeo idler is the same, well all the TF model idlers are and some jackaroos, so im putting bets on that the MUS are too.. So new greasable iilder cost me all of $110 brand new.. im as happy as...

[MattMU]

FRN71E,
Mate $120 for the idler is great...where did you manage to pick that up from?

Matt.

[drift]

Im not sure what the exchange rate is from the UK but it could be worth asking this guy if he will post to Auss

cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-STEERING-IDLER-ARM_W0QQitemZ280236928273QQihZ018QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thats if your not in a great hurry mind

[John]

Can any one please tell me how much movment would be needed in a steering idler on an Iauzu Mu for it to be considered dangerous. The one i have has about 2mm movment at the end of the thread.

[bozza72]

Mine failed the last warrant andit had about 2mm of movment

[geeves]

Stocks , and Suspension Autoparts in Lower Hutt and BNT sell them after market. Dont know current price. Otherwise there is always pickapart or motex for second hand. Its the same on all isuzu 4wd up to when they changed to rack and pinion.
Movement to fail a wof is effectivly any movement. Dangerous is harder to define. It aint going to break so you dont loose steering but it will have a random effect on wheel alignment which will affect handleing

[John]

Thanks for the help. sorta tricky situation this, as I issued the wof on a vechicle, maybe about 1mm movment,the rules state (if cant determin road test for handling) It was perfect, but then LTSA arived and desputed my judgement.

[geeves]

When the LTSA nazis are around its much better to err on the side of caution. Also if something happens to that car in the future you could end up in the fireing line. A case a few years ago where a car with no wof had a fatal crash The Wof had only just expired but the crash investigators determined that a worn front suspension caused the crash and that it was so worn that it should of failed at the last wof more than 6 months previous. The issuer was charged with manslaughter but I dont know the outcome.
When it comes to actual safety items ie suspension brakes chassis rust there should never be any need to discus whether it should fail or not.
In this case that degree of movement would be sideways forming a triangle so the actual change to the wheel alignment would of been minute but then how quickly do they go from this amount of play to something that is dangerous. I know you can only fail something that is faulty "now" but do you pass tyres with exactly 1.5mm tread and nothing else or do you tell the owner that by the time he gets home they wont be legal no more or do you fail them.

[john]

Yea i understand ya thought about the nazis are about,the paticular day was just an outa the blue random visit.Took him about 75minites the paticular to check steering,wipers,lights and seat bellts.complaints about the steering and the amount of dust that apeared when exstracting the seat belts ;D even was on kneeling on the mud baurd at one stage going along wipers checking with finger tips looking for any ruff spots.it was raining the paticular day and they worked fine and completly cleared the windscreen.But i surposse his job is to pick or else he wouldnt have a job.

[geeves]

I hope the owner of the vehicle was waiting to take it away while the check was going on.
Ive accepted things failed on my car that I know are not in the warrant book but are safety related as they have still needed repair as I belive that if it needs fixing it should be fixed. However I got pinged on my wof before last for a loose front driveshaft. This never gets used on road in 4wd so should it be a wof issue.

[john]

The owner of the vechicle was not presant at the time,the vechicle was here getting repairs auto free wheeling hubs etc and water leak.As for your d/shaft issue yes ya surpossed to check the and u joints etc. the problem is how one person says it to much movment and one says its ok. This is the same nazi, he use to work as inspector doing Cofs.A truck was here it had failed because of a fault in one of the cross members in the chassis.It was to be repaired by a locial enginer that has been altering short lengthing truck chassis etc for about 35 year as is proberly the best around.When he viwed the chassis there was nothing her could see that was wrong.so phones station asking for the form that exsplains the reason why it was faulty and what was wrong but the ispector refussed to sign any thing detailing what was wrong.All he wanted was to see a new shiny peace of steel in there when there was nothing wrong with the original.

[geeves]

Not much you can do. They make the rules they enforce the rules and they tear up your wof authority if you dont go along. I think the correct term is judge jury and executioner