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Post by qldpop on Mar 19, 2008 11:29:48 GMT 11
Hi all, this may seem like a real dumb question to you, but I have recently bought a 93, 3.1td Manual Mu and have been trying to find out the towing capacity. I am sure that one of you will have the info so thought I would ask instead of continuing to pull what little hair I have out!!! Thanks in advance
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Post by deestingray on Mar 19, 2008 12:20:50 GMT 11
Nice question and it is one that I am sure most would have already tried to find out as well.
I recently bought a towbar for mine from city towbars in Brisbane and that one is rated to 1500kg with a 120kg ball weight. It is the only one that they do for an MU so I am assuming that unless you are going to get a custom jobbie done with engineering approval, that is probably max.
I was on a weighbridge the other day in my 2.8td and it came in at about 1.88 tonnes to which 1500kg sounds about right.
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Post by geeves on Mar 19, 2008 14:50:21 GMT 11
I dont know how Aussi rules are written on this so best check them as well. If they are written as "manufacturers rating" then no jap import has a rating as towing isnt allowed in Japan.
2 ways around this first is the rule of thumb used in NZ of towing weight 3/4 weight of vehicle which is very close to 1500kg or use the figures from the same year Jackeroo. This has the same engine and brakes and just as strong a chassis but is 300kg heavier.
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Post by qldpop on Mar 19, 2008 15:11:53 GMT 11
Thanks guys, I appreciate the info. I was thinking around the 1500kg but thought I would ask as I have not had much experience with these 4wd's. I will run with that at this stage. thanks again.
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Post by Bruce on Mar 19, 2008 18:41:23 GMT 11
Hi Charlie, we have a 3.1 MU and the tow bar rating is 1200kg and 80kg ball rate. We now tow a 15 foot old Viscount caravan in at about 1200 kg loaded and no problems towing it.
We also have a MU Wizard and the tow bar on it says 2500kg and 250 kgs for a Holden Jackaroo (which we have the same motor) and the other placard on it says 1600/80 for Holden Frontera. So in the end I suppose it depends on your insurance company. I don't think I would try towing 2500 kgs thought.
Cheers Bruce.
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Post by qldpop on Mar 19, 2008 21:23:42 GMT 11
Thanks Bruce. I will be towing about 1500kg and that only for a couple of trips. May never tow again after that!! So what do you do in Nanango Bruce? I have quite a few relatives over there. Thanks again.
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Post by Bruce on Mar 20, 2008 9:41:39 GMT 11
Hi Charlie, I am retired (house husband) Annie, my wife, teaches at Kingaroy High School.
We use to live in Yeppoon up till 2006.
If your ever come this way send me a PM and I'll give you my address so you can call in and talk MUs
Cheers Bruce
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Post by rally4life[mike] on Mar 20, 2008 12:15:17 GMT 11
Hi guys just a thought in NZ we have two ratings one braked and one unbraked, my 5door bighorn is 750kg unbraked and 2500kg braked would this be the same in OZ
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Post by Bruce on Mar 20, 2008 13:27:01 GMT 11
Hi Mike yes the Bighorn/Jackaroo are that 750/2500, and that is the old 3.1 td Jackaroo.
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Post by qldpop on Mar 21, 2008 22:23:41 GMT 11
Hi Bruce, well your good wife I think would know my Nieces. Amy Trace I think is the only one that is in Kingaroy High at the moment although I think that Katherine will not be too far behind. Nathan is fairly well known there too as an up and coming young sportsman. I do not get over often but with my move to the Sunshine Coast I will be a lot closer. Who knows we may hook up one day!! Thanks again to everyone for the info.
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Post by gecko on Mar 23, 2008 14:16:06 GMT 11
i brought my MU of a forestry worker, he showed me what they do to tow bars in the bush lol, he was also a metal worker and made the one himself thats on the back of my MU, said the MU towed a 3ton trailer down the logging truck tracks quite nicely lol, also i can have that chrome bar under it that people normally have take off to install a tow bar.  |
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Post by geeves on Mar 24, 2008 17:21:13 GMT 11
If that setup is just attached to the 4 bolts holding the ring thing in place do not trust it!
The rear xmember on the mu is too weak to have towing points attached without some fairly heavy chassis mods
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Post by gecko on Mar 24, 2008 22:23:02 GMT 11
theres more bolts you cant see in the picture, i wasnt to worried about it cause it had been certifyed but will get under an have a look.
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Post by muvit madness on Mar 26, 2008 21:28:22 GMT 11
Hi guys just a thought in NZ we have two ratings one braked and one unbraked, my 5door bighorn is 750kg unbraked and 2500kg braked would this be the same in OZ Hi I recently weighed my MU-TROLL for the engineering purposes. Old tare weight was 1740kg With around 20L of fuel & to my amazement weighed 2200kg as it is & i haven't even added the extra barwork on around each guard  The funny thing is is my rego papers say Tare weight 2200kg & GVM (gross vehicle mass) says 2400kg but nothing about G.C.M (gross combination mass) E.G 4wd & caravan or trailer for that matter!! Now i'm thinking regardless of ratings on tow bars as such i only have 200 kgs to play with  Is this right?. Unless i've only got 200kg to play with in my mu but does'nt include whats in tow? So 3 overweight people would render my mu over its limit. But i could still tow a tonne of dirt in a box trailer tho. My question is how is my laden weight affecting the overall towing capacity taking into account my mods in relation to engine capacity,braking size & how much weight i can legally tow?.... P.S this is not a brain teaser ;D cheers muvit  |
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Post by geeves on Mar 27, 2008 7:37:30 GMT 11
It is a brain teaser because your wagon is now only a Mu in name. 200kg = 3 average weight people not overweight and you havent included a full tank and your recovery gear. This posibly means no more passengers.
Reality is that whats on the rego no longer aplies because of the substantial mods. Only person that can adequatly answer your question is your certifying engineer.
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Post by nig on Mar 27, 2008 18:55:20 GMT 11
Hi guys just a thought in NZ we have two ratings one braked and one unbraked, my 5door bighorn is 750kg unbraked and 2500kg braked would this be the same in OZ Hi I recently weighed my MU-TROLL for the engineering purposes. Old tare weight was 1740kg With around 20L of fuel & to my amazement weighed 2200kg as it is & i haven't even added the extra barwork on around each guard The funny thing is is my rego papers say Tare weight 2200kg & GVM (gross vehicle mass) says 2400kg but nothing about G.C.M (gross combination mass) E.G 4wd & caravan or trailer for that matter!! Now i'm thinking regardless of ratings on tow bars as such i only have 200 kgs to play with Is this right?. Unless i've only got 200kg to play with in my mu but does'nt include whats in tow? So 3 overweight people would render my mu over its limit. But i could still tow a tonne of dirt in a box trailer tho. My question is how is my laden weight affecting the overall towing capacity taking into account my mods in relation to engine capacity,braking size & how much weight i can legally tow?.... P.S this is not a brain teaser ;D cheers muvit With the Patrol undercarriage you now have, the engineer should be able to ugrade your GMV to whatever the Patrol axles/brakes allow, and this should be a bit more than 2.4 tonnes as that is pretty close the Patrol's kerb weight. Probably worth asking him anyway |
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