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Post by elysian on Feb 26, 2008 22:39:51 GMT 11
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Post by gecko on Feb 26, 2008 23:35:41 GMT 11
just as well he had that strop over the back of the boat or it could have turned out abit different lol, i cant work out if this guys insane or a ledgend lol
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Post by geeves on Feb 27, 2008 9:32:40 GMT 11
I got sent a copy of these pics a couple of weeks ago in a power point presentation. The author was obviously anti 4wd and the title wouldnt pass this sites censor
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Post by James W on Feb 27, 2008 16:08:28 GMT 11
Heheh, you can see the boat starting to go adrift in the current... no doubt floating trailer and all. Anti 4wd Geeves? Was the author trying to protect the rights of water? Stupid yes to himself and son.... but how does that equate to an anti 4WD movement? If a car drove in should I be calling for a ban of all cars? In fact I see stupid stuff on the road all the time, yes, ban all vehciles..... stop the world.. I want off   |
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Post by muvit madness on Feb 27, 2008 19:36:06 GMT 11
Hehehe nah good on him for braving it i reckon I reckon this guys luck was in that day especially with cheese cutters for tyres must have been a slow moving current otherwise he might of been swept away especially with the boat trying to pull the rear of the car around. He obviously knows his cars capabilites to be able to drive it fully submerged like that were as if it were me i'd probably be wandering if it would stall or something right in the middle knowing my mate mr MUrphy !!. cheers muvit  |
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Post by gecko on Feb 27, 2008 20:15:14 GMT 11
anti 4WD people lol, i guess these are the same people that buy houses next to an airport, railway or speedway then complain about the noise.
a cars a car, ours just can go more places and have more wheels driving. the only time these people will be happy is when everyone is driving a car made out of cardboard so in the event of an accident everyone is hurt equally, its not a nice feeling riding in a car you have no confidence in because you know if you have an crash its going to fold up quite nicely. we have been to some customers places to do work and their driveways were so bad we have lifted wheels in our 4X4 work ute, every had to do a 15 point turn on someones driveway and lifted a wheel? lol if we had a 2 wheel drive ute still i suspect it would still be there lol
besides 4X4's pull the boat out of the lake nicely lol.
my anti 4X4 2 cents lol
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Post by gecko on Feb 27, 2008 20:18:38 GMT 11
i wonder if this guy is heading home from a fishing trip? and has already done this heading the other way earlier that day?
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Post by geeves on Feb 28, 2008 6:07:43 GMT 11
Ill copy the text from the power point when I get home. It will make sence.
Remember I condone niether the actions of this driver or or the author of the power point
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Post by geeves on Feb 28, 2008 11:08:49 GMT 11
sorry deleted original no can supply
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Post by geeves on Feb 28, 2008 11:15:24 GMT 11
One question that does need to be asked is How much would search and resue have to spend if things haddnt gone to plan? Or would they of just waited for them to wash up in Westport in a couple of weeks?
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Post by nig on Mar 1, 2008 12:11:38 GMT 11
sorry deleted original no can supply If anyone is interested in the text I ripped the original .pps apart into Jpegs and loaded it up to photobucket so I could post it up on another forum - s37.photobucket.com/albums/e93/nig9999/river%20crossing/They dont present in the right order here, but if you look at the file name (image1.jpg, inage2.jpg..etc) you will get them in sequence |
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Post by caffa on Mar 2, 2008 10:03:38 GMT 11
One question that does need to be asked is How much would search and resue have to spend if things haddnt gone to plan? Or would they of just waited for them to wash up in Westport in a couple of weeks? Thats exactly right. I think this clown is a total wuckfit. If you want to endanger your own life, go right ahead but leave the tin lid out of it. With water flowing like that, there is more good luck than good management. There are too many variables that make knowing your ride and its capabilities mean jack. That joker in the black shirt with the camera should have snotted him not shared a smile with him.  |
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Post by muvit madness on Mar 2, 2008 16:07:08 GMT 11
One question that does need to be asked is How much would search and resue have to spend if things haddnt gone to plan? Or would they of just waited for them to wash up in Westport in a couple of weeks? Thats exactly right. I think this clown is a total wuckfit. If you want to endanger your own life, go right ahead but leave the tin lid out of it. With water flowing like that, there is more good luck than good management. There are too many variables that make knowing your ride and its capabilities mean jack. That joker in the black shirt with the camera should have snotted him not shared a smile with him. Hi Just to iterate on caffas comment & not to be condescending in any way i see your point although i cant see any difference in what he has done there & lets say (argumentatively speaking) doin a hill climb on precarious angles with the wife & kids in cab & almost puttin it on its lid or even traversing a slope where there's a real danger of a roll over & no trees to stop your momentum. I could go on with more eg's but you get my point as 4wding in it self is a dangerous sport. Which brings me back to the ? of knowing your ride as there is always variables associated with wheelin but we cant live on what ifs otherwise we'd never push the limits or boundaries. Just my 2c opinion tho as from personal experience from getting stuck in river beds & crossing them as i haven't driven a crossing that has been over the bonnet for no longer than say 30seconds - 1minute . But If i knew my mu would run fully submerged for a duration such as that Yoda (cruiser) i would give it a go myself!!. regards muvit |
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Post by caffa on Mar 2, 2008 17:13:57 GMT 11
Hi Just to iterate on caffas comment & not to be condescending in any way i see your point although i cant see any difference in what he has done there & lets say (argumentatively speaking) doin a hill climb on precarious angles with the wife & kids in cab & almost puttin it on its lid or even traversing a slope where there's a real danger of a roll over & no trees to stop your momentum. I could go on with more eg's but you get my point as 4wding in it self is a dangerous sport. Which brings me back to the ? of knowing your ride as there is always variables associated with wheelin but we cant live on what ifs otherwise we'd never push the limits or boundaries. Just my 2c opinion tho as from personal experience from getting stuck in river beds & crossing them as i haven't driven a crossing that has been over the bonnet for no longer than say 30seconds - 1minute . But If i knew my mu would run fully submerged for a duration such as that Yoda (cruiser) i would give it a go myself!!. regards muvit I agree Ray and its horses for courses. Personally, I would spend more time than usual thinking about about a hill climb on precarious angles with the wife & kids in the truck too but at least, they are a little more controlled. I have a huge respect for the water because it is generally not too forgiving. We can live on our roof after end for ending down a hill or rolling off it but we cant live under water with no oxygen. Wheeling is great fun and the occasional bit of rip "you know what" or bust is awesome too. I just think that in the event of that particular water crossing, whilst the yoda is more than capable, it was an unnecessary risk with the tin lid in the cab. |
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Post by caffa on Mar 2, 2008 17:14:48 GMT 11
HA, gotta love the filtering ... lol, I forgot about that ...  |
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Post by gecko on Mar 2, 2008 17:22:38 GMT 11
like i said up the page, was this the first time he attempted the crossing that day?, im just guessing but in the pictures when hes crossing the rivers is it at its peak? maybe hes already been through it and is on his way back with a passanger? how knows?
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Post by geeves on Mar 2, 2008 17:42:37 GMT 11
cant argue with the fact that only a madman would cross that with a boat in tow. With a kid in tow those pics would earn a careless use charge with loss of licence.
Too many people have died both sides of the Tasman doing exactly this
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Post by gecko on Mar 3, 2008 21:56:50 GMT 11
i wouldnt think a boat that size would do much there designed to casue little drag in water and it would be in the slipstream of the vechical towing it in this case to the side and slightly behind, looks like a 14 foot plylite maybe, the trailer would be the thing causing drag, now if it were a horse float i would be saying "crazy man" and i suspect the pictures wouldnt show him empting the water out of his ute. i had a look on the net for this bridge and couldnt find it, there doesnt seem to be a murrays bridge, from what ive found the bridge in the pictures is on warwick killarney Rd, cullendore rd is the next on the left 300meters, and murrays bridge is actually the district you are entering not the name of the bridge. heres a picture of the stretch of road with the bridge from google earth, i added a blue line where the water started and the guy entered it, but couldnt put one at the other end where he exited the water cause i dont have any landmarks to go by. you can see the cross hatching on the road he empted his doors out on.  P.S i dont endorse this kind of thing, and dont claim on being an expert on this, and having the kid in the car while you do it just doesnt seem like a good idea. |
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Post by geeves on Mar 4, 2008 9:21:08 GMT 11
Still water isnt the problem its the flow that washes you off the bridge. If you look at the pics you see the boat nearly at right angle to the car and its rear in line with the road signs. it was against the armco and probably floating at the time. If it had floated a little higher it would of hooked a wheel over the edge and either locked there waiting for the water to come up some more or draged the car over the edge as well. If it had locked there it would of made a fairly danerous helicopter rescue esspecialy for the kid.
Large rivers can be deceptive as you cant see the flow as easily but any river running close to 10 meters above normal has to be considered dangerous.
When we attempt risky climbs and sidles to we insist that our wives/kids stay in the car. My wife frequently gets out and watches.We can see what we are attempting He couldnt see the road surface or even aquatly judge where it was
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Post by Bruce on Mar 4, 2008 16:10:57 GMT 11
This is one that did not make it, well untill the next day when we came back and got it out.  |
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