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Post by nelson on Jan 16, 2009 17:20:14 GMT 11
Got a qoute from a 4wd shop.They don't have any lift kit for a 93 mu,the custom make it and it will cost about $600 to get it fitted.They suggest for a suspension lift which will have a lift of about 40mm and will improve road handling and articulation as well then I can fit on 32X10.5X15 mud tires which will cost at around $2400.
What do you reckon?
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Post by geeves on Jan 16, 2009 18:44:45 GMT 11
The 600 wont include cert. Most of that will be labour as theres a few hours work and a couple of hundred in parts. 2400 sounds high for a suspension kit. rear springs should be about 500 - 600 Shocks the same for all 4 Front just needs to be adjusted unless its the Calmini kit which has fancy upper A arms included. Most after market torsion bars are too heavy and reduce articulation.
It would be nice if that was a total price including tyres but if it was there would be a 6 month waiting list for such a bargin. Tyres will cost another 1200 and 400 for rims
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Post by Demonic on Jan 16, 2009 19:57:07 GMT 11
Evening Geeves and Nelson.
I went into G Guy motors today to get a ballpark quote for suspension lift on my 1990 Mu. I was given a quote of $1800 all up.
That inclued
2 new torsion bars
4 shocks
new leaves in back
and new arms on front.
few other misc parts aswell.
AND a wheel alignment.
I also asked them about the cert. they told me no cert was required on suspension lift only as you only replacing existing part with new ones (he called them new numbered parts(?).. how ever he did say that a body lift did require a cert.
I am having a formal quote e-mailed to me so will post some of there here for you to ponder.
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Post by geeves on Jan 16, 2009 20:41:50 GMT 11
The suspension lift is a tricky one. Going by the letter of the rule then direct replacements made for a vehicle are ok but ones that change the suspension are not. The only replacements available are factory or lifted. There is info on the LTSA website but the best idea would be to ring the Lower Hutt Vehicle testing station just by the Melling Bridge and talk to Ken McKadam. Hes the certifier of choice for 4wds in Wellington. Hes very approachable and a talk before the mods is free.
On a forum like this we have to be very careful not to give advise that will come and bite us later so better to err on the side of caution
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Post by geeves on Jan 16, 2009 21:08:21 GMT 11
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Post by Demonic on Jan 16, 2009 21:08:46 GMT 11
Sounds like I am gonna be in a stand off between The shop and the govt!
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Post by Demonic on Jan 16, 2009 21:26:56 GMT 11
They way they read to me is that as long as you stick to the guide line you ok. ie if i go out and weld a large section of steel tube between the body and the axle then thats a fail. I would say a shop would be doing this to strick guidelines. I work with Automotive safty equipment (mostly barriers) and i know we ahve some really strick guidelines.
More to stop yobbos from cutting springs, getting them to have it done the "correct" way by your local "expert" lol.
Anyway.. thats how I read it but ill give Ken call aswell..
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Post by nelson on Jan 17, 2009 20:35:11 GMT 11
The quote they gave me was the top of the line products which will give better handling,the 4wd shop installs ARB products.The main guy did not know about the calmini kit either.
I don't know much about this stuff and it's good learning from you guys.
I decided to do the body lift myself and go for the legal side that says not more than 50 mm in height,so can anyone help me where I could buy these body lift kit and some instructions on how to install it,a step by step instruction would do and if later on decide what to do with the suspension kit.Try to go around and get some more lesser quotes.Have to keep on looking at trade me for tires while I am on it.
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Post by nelson on Jan 17, 2009 20:48:50 GMT 11
Here is the qoute they gave me
front torsion bars $420
4 shocks $720 $190/shock
rear Springs $580 $290/Each
fitting $350
miscellaneous $330
Total $2400
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Post by James W on Jan 18, 2009 21:35:33 GMT 11
ouch, sounds all kinda expensive way of doing it to me. for example... why new torsion bars? your existing ones are adjustable.
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Post by mulover on Jan 19, 2009 11:19:21 GMT 11
would love to know what the $330 miscellaneous is for??!!, as james said, you don't need new torsion bars, and the front shocks stay the same length too so they aren't anything special. For that money i'd be wanting something like rancho rs9000 adjustable ones.
the spring price is about the same as what i paid for mine though.
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Post by nelson on Jan 19, 2009 18:24:08 GMT 11
miscellaneous includes spring bushes extended shackles,it was only a rough qoute but the price will get there.I really did not ask much about it as I was shocked by the price as well.will go back to clarify things.The body lift cost $600.is that price ok or better to do it myself.Do you know where I can get one?
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Post by James W on Jan 19, 2009 19:01:15 GMT 11
Ouch, i'm a tight arse, but why new springs if you are getting extended shackles as well?
Sounds like one of my first quotes... you now know what the gold plated version costs... and for people with big pockets and bling bling....
If you make your own extended shackles ($80 ish), body lift ($80 ish in parts), wind the torsion bars yourself... some new bushes $40... ouch $200 ish all up... maybe need new shocks... but you can certainly pull the $2400 quote down.
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Post by nelson on Jan 19, 2009 20:12:53 GMT 11
I am new to this so I am still looking my way around to start at a low cost as I am going to do a lot of mods for a good 4x4. gathering all the info I can get.is there any thread on how to do a body lift on a mu.step by step process,I guess this is where I am going to learn on how to do things right.Help.Help.Help
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Post by Pissy on Jan 21, 2009 11:53:24 GMT 11
There are quite a few threads about body lift, try doing a search for them. On the clubisuzu home page there is a link to download a page in the Workshop tab page and click to repairs and modifications page.
That page is for a 3" body lift which involves more but 2" lift is easier.
I hope that helps
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Post by geeves on Jan 23, 2009 17:49:15 GMT 11
On those quotes forget the torsion bars for now. You might need them when you fit the heavy winch and bar Not before. Cut the shock price in half by useing KYB Tokico or Rancho5000 shocks. Springs sound reasonable but make sure they are not heavy duty. The heavy duty are good on Rodeos or heavily loaded lwb bighorns but hopeless on the Mu. Not sure why they want to fit extended shackles as well as springs If your current springs are in good nick (they wont be) then shackles on there on give a usefull lift. Expect a 50mm lift kit to give 70 to 120mm actual lift due to any current sag
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Post by nelson on Jan 28, 2009 20:42:20 GMT 11
I am decided to go for a 50mm body lift will be able to get a kit for $250
My MU is a 2.8 automatic .will I be encountering any problems.
any thing needed to be done.has anyone done a 2 inch body lift
on a auto???
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