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Post by nelson on Jan 14, 2009 18:02:02 GMT 11
Hi there I am new to this 4x4ing,just bought a 93 mu auto.2.8 and would like the cheapest way to have a body lift.and other essential modifications at a low cost.thanks ???
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Demonic
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Post by Demonic on Jan 14, 2009 18:25:40 GMT 11
If you get any prices PM me.. i have been searchin the net, but theres not alot on prices...
I did read a post about a guy who make body lift blocks by glueing and clampin nylon chopping boards to gether and then using a holesaw to cut the blocks out..
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Post by nelson on Jan 14, 2009 18:31:32 GMT 11
they say you still have to pay some certain amount to get your modifications certified.if you buy the lift kit how much would it normally cost.want to spend the least as possible so i can do all the necessary mods.
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Post by Demonic on Jan 14, 2009 19:42:34 GMT 11
The blocks themselfs will set you back bout $50 - $200 (depending on your vehicle and the height you want to go), add labour (unless you wanna have a go).
I was looking into this myself last week aswell as suspension lifts, Its not easy and it not "cheap", one thing to keep in mind that may bump the price up is the unthought of items that may have to be done like added length in the brakes hoses, cables, maybe steering arm.
I suggest you have a think on what you want to do. A body lift will not raise you vehicle, it will only give you a better approach angles where a suspension will raise the vehicle. Best bet get a quote from a 4x4 shop on parts and install, they may also be able to cert it at the same time. If your in wellington I suggest G Guy Motors on Thorndon Quay.
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Post by Demonic on Jan 14, 2009 19:48:59 GMT 11
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Post by geeves on Jan 14, 2009 19:49:03 GMT 11
It used to be that spring lifts would pass without cert but thats about all. Now any mod to chassis or suspension needs Low Volume cert. This costs about $400 but is a per inspection charge. Best trick is to plan all your mods now and start fitting them as soon as you get your next wof. Then you have lots of mods done by next wof which you wont get till you have your low vol cert. One big catch with this method though is that as soon as you start fitting the mods you effectivly null invoid the wof so if you get caught by one of the very few cops that know this stuff you could get stung Also if you have a crash be prepared for some fast talking to your insurance etc. They will need convincing that they should pay. My wagon is cert for 31 inch tyres but most of the time has 32 inch on except wof time.
Not sure about useing chopping boards for lift blocks even though they are made from the right stuff. Its not nylon but high density polyethylene that is used. The blocks are cheap compared to the cost of the longer bolts and cert
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Post by nelson on Jan 14, 2009 20:04:43 GMT 11
thanks for the info,mine is an auto so will be a bit complicated .i live up here in whangarei and probably will consult a 4wd shop before doing any mods will get back to you.see what they reckon
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Post by Demonic on Jan 14, 2009 20:37:50 GMT 11
what about a bodylift? you think that would require a LVC? not really a mod to the chassis or suspension is it?
Pondering lifting mine a bit more b4 i look at torsion bars tweaking etc...
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Post by nelson on Jan 14, 2009 22:07:04 GMT 11
i know manual hubs are the sure thing when it come to engaging the 4 wheel drive.the only thing is you have to get out time to time.will changing to auto hubs work the same thing. ???
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Post by geeves on Jan 15, 2009 6:26:39 GMT 11
Body lifts The 4wd part of LVVTA tryed hard to get up to 50 mm body lifts allowed without cert but failled The reasoning was it affects center of gravity. Such is life. Its now as easy from a legal point of view to build a full on truck like Muvits as it is to fit slightly larger tyres
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Post by Demonic on Jan 15, 2009 8:09:49 GMT 11
so a can go upto 50mm body lift w/o needing a LVC?.
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Post by geeves on Jan 15, 2009 11:36:20 GMT 11
no. No bodylifts without cert
I know there are many uncertified body lifts around that continue to get wofs and if your favorite mechanic will pass a sensible bodylift without cert then this is pure luck. The problem occurs if you have a crash especially if it is caused by a loss of control while cornering or roll over on your part. You waive bye bye to your insurance The police look at you funny in the same way as they look at the boy racers on a thursday night and they more than likely prosecute your mechanic as well. This has happened with a mechanic up north faceing a manslaughter charge because a car he had been the last to put a wof on had a fault that police belived caused the accident and was present at that wof This was despite the fact that that wof had expired
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Post by Demonic on Jan 15, 2009 12:20:25 GMT 11
That pretty harsh ah!.. $80 for the blocks, maybe $200-300 for the labour(less you do it yourself) and then $400 to get a cert... But i can deff understand the safty concerns
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Post by James W on Jan 15, 2009 15:14:54 GMT 11
yes, anything that raises the center of gravity I have been told needs a LVC. Also put yourself in this situation... you have a small ding (or worse a big one and end up in court), you try and claim insurance....and they find undecleared mods... and they won't pay out... it's their job to find a way out... so don't give it to them. Do talk to them about your mods... Don't let them get to excited, it will be safe, certified etc...the real fun bit is asking them if you are covered when modified and un-certified driving accross town to get it certified?  |
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Post by Demonic on Jan 15, 2009 16:19:21 GMT 11
I should be sweet. When the other car needed work i had full cover, but that was only cos i had rung them to tell them...
Putting off the BJF till next week, Mates got his engagment party and since I BM ahve to be there... also may aswell do the CV boots at the same time...
Thanks for the info.. I'll go and see the 4x4 ppl in wellie tomorrow after work. get a price. Stay tuned nelson. Ill post the quotes i got so you have an idea, unless you already sorted.
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Post by nelson on Jan 15, 2009 17:40:48 GMT 11
ok thanks a lot will keep you posted as soon as i get more info
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Post by nelson on Jan 15, 2009 19:41:23 GMT 11
I am planning to install an intercooler for my mu.will those intercooler from bighorns and scoop be any good?
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Post by geeves on Jan 15, 2009 20:17:02 GMT 11
You need the intercooler and scoop from a 88 - 91 bighorn plus all the pipes and brackets and the will to cut a big hole in the bonnet Everything fits more or less perfectly. The 92 - 97 bighorn also bolts up ok but the scoop looks ugly on a Mu.
If you cant find one a few have been done with pajero and hyundai bits but you have to make your own brackets and pipework so a lot more work.
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Post by nelson on Jan 15, 2009 21:14:39 GMT 11
Thanks again for that,will start looking for a set.it really has a lot of work if you start the mods.but will get there
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Post by nelson on Jan 16, 2009 17:15:25 GMT 11
Have been to VTNz and inquired about body lifts the gave me a website to browse for the mods.According to the VIRM Table 9-1-1 .Tere is no need for a LVVcert if blocks are not more than 50mm in height and must be constructed from metal and designed for the purpose,so are the materials made out from the chopping board up to the specifications VIRM is asking?
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