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Post by isuzumate on Nov 3, 2007 23:57:53 GMT 11
Hi Guys,
I have just ordered a set of Rodeo 9000 shocks for my Rodeo truck and would like to confirm if they have enough travel to safely handle the 2inch body lift mod. The last thing I want is to break a shock off because it is too short.
Also, if I decide to take this mod to the next stage and need more travel (only during off road work), how much travel should be left on the shock when the suspension is on the bump rubber?
Has anyone done suspension mods with more than 2 inch travel using 9000 Rodeos or should I consider a different shock (it is not too late to change my order to some other brand)
I would appreciate any advice regarding the Rodeos suitability.
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Post by isuzumate on Nov 4, 2007 0:38:49 GMT 11
Sorry guys,
See I got my Rancho's and Rodeo's muddled - the shocks are Rancho 9000's.
Cheers.
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dunk
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Post by dunk on Nov 4, 2007 0:58:58 GMT 11
They say "No one ever regretted buying quality" I'd change to 'Koni" if I was you ! Reason being :- A lot of the 'Rangie' boys tried 'Ranchos' & ended up with broken shock mounts (Even one who reved about the things!) In 10 years of 'Rangieing' Never had a problem with 'Koni's
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Post by isuzumate on Nov 4, 2007 8:22:24 GMT 11
Hi Dunk,
Thanks for your info. Can you please tell me what Koni's you would recommend for my Rodeo? Are they gasflled or normal shocks and did the Ranchos break off the back or the front mountings?
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Post by Yarno on Nov 5, 2007 19:02:58 GMT 11
Your bodylift has no efect on the suspension or shocks, because all the mounts are on the chassis.
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dunk
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Post by dunk on Nov 5, 2007 23:45:40 GMT 11
Hi Dunk, Thanks for your info. Can you please tell me what Koni's you would recommend for my Rodeo? Are they gasflled or normal shocks and did the Ranchos break off the back or the front mountings? The Ranchos broke the rear top mounts (they were far too rigid) Rancho acknowledged a fault, whether they did anything about it, I don't know! Koni's for a Mu are beyond me, at this stage, I'm only familiar with there use on Rangies. But, I do have a couple of part #'s for ya .. 30-1565 Front & 30-1566 Rear. That's for Bighorns though. From there 'online' catalog. I'm pretty sure they had a listing for the Rodeo too. Hope this helps. Regards.
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Post by isuzumate on Nov 6, 2007 2:17:33 GMT 11
Hi Dunk,
Thanks for the info. I will try our local Koni supplier and check if they have the part numbers you have quoted or if they have a separate code for the Rodeo.
I have looked at the older Ranchos and the new red/white ones and I cannot see any difference in the top mounting on the two shocks. I am now a little concerned that this is not the way to go. I will check their warranty very carefully.
Rgds.
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Post by geeves on Nov 6, 2007 6:16:49 GMT 11
It Wont be ther mount on the shock that caused the problem but too high a damping rate putting to much strain on the mount on the chassis. In NZ when cng was all the craze a lot of people put the tank in the back then leveled the vehicle by fitting air shocks and pumping them up. This caused a lot of broken shock mounts as they are not designed for that sort of load
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Post by isuzumate on Nov 6, 2007 18:36:32 GMT 11
Hi Yarno and Alan,
I do understand that the bodylift would not affect the shocks but all I wanted to confirm is that the Rancho 9000's would have enough travel if I did the 2 inch lift and then also did swaybar mod for offroad work. I saw in one of Alan's other posts that he warned that it is actually more on compression that a shock brakes than on extention. I am still not sure if I should go for the 9000's after what Dunk said?
Talking about broken off shock mounts I see that these are welded into the chassis and onto the leaf spiing mounts. If they break off can one just drill them out and replace them with a HT bolt and nut with the appropriate spacers and washers? I have had to do that on both back top shock mounts and have used a 16mm bolted them right through the chassis
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Post by geeves on Nov 6, 2007 19:02:28 GMT 11
I dont remember stating anything about how shocks work although the above is generally true but more so on up rated shocks. Bolting the shocks as you state should work ok but it would depend on local rules as to if this is legal. In NZ you would be sent to a certifier at a cost of $400 who would probably demand that the hole was sleeved. Check your local rules. Your shock dealer should have the specs for the shocks you are looking at and these will have the compressed and uncompressed lengths. There are also variations available from std although you would have to chose from the spec sheet as they will be std on anouther vehicle. If the shock isnt long enough uncompressed its unlikly to suffer damage but you loose travel If its too long compressed it will self destruct very quick unless you limit travel with bump stops etc
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Post by isuzumate on Nov 7, 2007 5:11:53 GMT 11
Alan,
After I posted the thread I went back and read all the old shock threads and found your answer in reply to witchdoctor's Nov 14th 2006 post.
By the way, I have sleeved the holes through the chassis. The sleeves protrude through the chassis to be supported by 50 x 12mm washers on either side of the chassis to lessen the point load on the chassis. The bolts are 16mm x 160mm long to place the top of the shock bracket where it was on the original mount.
Thanks, I will carefully check the compressed length of the shock first and then the max length before deciding which shock to fit.
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