quack
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Post by quack on Jun 4, 2008 20:52:11 GMT 11
the mu(2.8) 'seems' to have a nackered battery i think,
the other day we got in a drove it to the shop fine then we started it up and drover down the road a little bit more, then when we went to start again the starter could hardly turn over?
seems strange as work previous 2 times ok, i ended up crash starting it and goes fine, the alternater seems to be charging and when turned off the stereo seems to go fine but no juice to turn over, even with jumper leads to another running car it wouldnt turn over,
so im thinking could this problem be starter related or just battery, just havnt got my spear $$ and dont want to waste $200 on battery or money on a starter if i dont need too
any input? thanks
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Post by geeves on Jun 5, 2008 6:52:49 GMT 11
Clean and tighten your battery connections before doing anything else. 84% chance this is your prob
Get a freind to hold the multimeter on the battery posts when you crank it over. It should drop to about 10v while crancking At 8v the fuel cutoff works so no more start possible At 4v the engine stops turning over. Then charge the battery and try again. If it doesnt hold 10v while crancking measured on the battery post not the clamp the battery is shot
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quack
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Post by quack on Jun 5, 2008 11:55:19 GMT 11
termals are fine, was the first thing i checked, i had the battery out and charged it over night, still nothing, the volt meter on the dash drops right down to nothing even when i had it coneceted with jumper leads.
was thinking maybe that the starter has a high resistents or something, but after you post it sounds like battery, dam desiel needing a huge expensive battery:(
thanks alan!
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Post by geeves on Jun 5, 2008 14:47:50 GMT 11
Check with a proper multimeter and check at the battery posts. If you have the original lead battery clamps they are notorious for forming a hard light grey coating that is hard to see and a very good insulator. If you havent got shinny lead it aint clean
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quack
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Post by quack on Jun 18, 2008 17:39:47 GMT 11
hmmmm, just brought a new battery 600 cca, but wouldnt start still. the volt gauge only went up to around 8-10v so i was thinking maybe i need to take it for a drive to charge it up a bit?? went for a short 5min drive but still dont start.
other wise what else would be causing this and what steps to i need to go though, thanks
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Post by Yarno on Jun 18, 2008 18:00:53 GMT 11
Is it trying to crank the engine when you turn the key?? It maybe the start wire to the starter solenoid or the solenoid maybe stuck!
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quack
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Post by quack on Jun 18, 2008 18:23:05 GMT 11
yeah it sounds like it starts to turn but as compersion builds it stops. it crashstarts fine
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Post by geeves on Jun 19, 2008 10:04:41 GMT 11
sounds like time to rebuild the starter motor. Its slightly easier to get at than the alternator. Probably worn brushes. Not too serious
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Post by guythorn on Jun 19, 2008 17:42:19 GMT 11
Hi , The big thing is how old is your battery if it is over 2 years old I would replace it .Guy .
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quack
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Post by quack on Jun 20, 2008 22:45:24 GMT 11
i just brought a band new 600cca, its strange its like its a flat battery. it trys to turn over and slowly dies and some times after its been run for a while if i turn it off and then try turn it on again itll start.
i thought if it was bushes then it would just not work at all??
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Post by Yarno on Jun 23, 2008 17:34:32 GMT 11
Check the wires going to the starter, and check the earth going to the block, make sure they are all tight and not corroded.
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pk
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Post by pk on Jun 24, 2008 16:37:52 GMT 11
The rear bearing in the starter motor has collapsed.
This makes the starter motor work real hard to crank, and it only gets half a turn and stops.
You could connect 3 batteries and it still would not start.
I had to overhaul my starter just before I sold The Beast.
Other option is to upgrade to a Vehicross - fun fun fun.
PK
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Post by geeves on Jun 24, 2008 18:49:15 GMT 11
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pk
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Post by pk on Jul 7, 2008 16:30:35 GMT 11
Damn that Geeves.
I could have had a nearly complete spare car- right colour and everything.
We don't have trade me over here on the big island - is there any way of tracing or contacting who bought it??
There was one for sale here a few months ago for $45,000 (no thats not a typo) Not sure if it sold or not.
They are a bit thirsty on fuel, but they are fun to drive. ;D
On the road, and off the road, but hopefully not both at the same time like that fellow did.
Regards
PK
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Post by turnturn on Jul 7, 2008 18:13:24 GMT 11
pk, there are two of them sitting in a car yard in Dunedin, NZ. From memory they have been there a while. Both are 1997. One is $13,000 and the other $10,000, makes that $45,000 (Aus) look a bit steep! Here's the address www.arv.co.nz |
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Post by geeves on Jul 7, 2008 18:45:49 GMT 11
do vehicross fall into the no import because they are the same as category?
Trademe is our version of ebay
thirsty on fuel doesnt go well with $2.18L for 91 more for the 96 that this motor drinks
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pk
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Post by pk on Jul 8, 2008 16:37:03 GMT 11
Yes - there is a problem importing them into Australia.
Thats why I was so interested in the wrecked one - I think I can get it in on the basis that it will never be on the road - just stripped down for spare parts.
As far as I have been able to trace - only 8 of them in Australia, and most are very heavily guarded by enthusiests. The woman with the $45,000 unit was a bit over the top, and no better condition than mine. Same year and mileage and all, and I only paid $14,000 for mine.
Geeves, they run very well on a 10% ethanol blend at 95 octane which I am currently (today) buying for $1.56 per litre.
I get around 9 km / litre driving like an old granny, or 6 km / litre driving like a hoon. Somewhere in the middle I am comfortable, after all I am 58 and grey haired, and it wouldn't be a nice look being arrested for hooning ;D ;D
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Post by geeves on Jul 8, 2008 18:35:40 GMT 11
It didnt look that badly damaged. It doesnt take a lot of panel beating to get to the write off price. My bighorn is in a condition these days where dirty paint would almost see it written off.
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Post by Back Track on Aug 16, 2008 21:35:15 GMT 11
After overhauling my 3.1 D BH Inter cooler I have had it back to the Garage and Auto Electricians costing an xtra 2k. But I still have a problem ie: I turn the key on and all it does is a very low single click.Nothing else. I have had the Alternator repaired, a new battery etc etc can anybody help had enough of garages. please help, stuffed   |
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Post by geeves on Aug 18, 2008 7:32:02 GMT 11
starter motor,solinoid,wiring. I trust it has run since the rebuild otherwise theree could be something installed very wrong. Can you turn the motor over by hand
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